Hot Stove Cool Music Pays Homage to Chicago’s Rock, Soul & Blues with Tom Morello, Jimmy Chamberlin and John Stirrat as They Take the Stage at Wrigleyville’s Metro for 3rd Annual Hot Stove Cool Music Chicago Concert
more > http://wgntv.com/2014/05/13/hot-stove-cool-music/
Last year > http://themachinesomehow.blogspot.co.uk/2013_05_01_archive.html
Tuesday, 13 May 2014
Thursday, 8 May 2014
From Bad to...
...not quite as bad.
Still - this move is a good one for the band though. I think. Maybe.
It makes sense that if the band (re: Belly) wants to put out a “rock” album – he get an ‘experienced’ 'rock' (hair metal?) drummer to sit in. He might not be the best. He might be more show than ability – but if you can’t get one of the true greats who are able to go across genre’s with ease to join the band – better have someone that is ['good' at what they do] than middle of the road. Right? Get someone to embody that aspect of Chamberlin (or as Billy will put it the Smashing Pumpkins) and another drummer to embody another and so on and so forth... oh and ot also helps that he’s a name. Oh boy does it help.
But anyway, the good thing is, even though he appears to be a terrible person and a rather shitty drummer, he at least has the potential to make the next album sound different. Which is good for SP from my point of view. It’s all I hoped for in a new drummer following Jimmy. The lazy rehash of the old tropes on Oceania was a corporate and safe album. The opposite of what the band has been. Billy said it himself. It was too nicey-nicey.
Anyway, I haven’t heard quite enough of Tommy Lee’s drumming to pin down what his style is per-se, but the good thing is his style certainly isn’t “trying to copy Jimmy Chamberlin, but failing” and that is something we should be thankful for. I don’t think us drummers will get anything to write home about in terms of interesting parts or shows of technical skill – but what we shouldn’t get is something that sounds lacklustre and best and embarrassingly amateur at worst.
Don't get me wrong I do sort of think the band I once worshipped has become an absolute joke - but I guess I'm still holding on to a tiny shred of hope that once again Corgan will make something that I enjoy.
How can someone who once had one of the greatest drummers of all time in his band, keep hiring shit ones... meh
Sorry for the opinion piece. But whatevs. It is what it is.
Tommy Lee is the New Drummer for Smashing Pumpkins
Reasons to be thankful
- PUBLICITY - Billy will be happy, his ego will be stoked as the band becomes a talking point again
- Tommy Lee is better than Mike Bryne
- It’s a new direction for the band
- Tommy Lee is definitely not a destructive human being
Reasons to be disapointed
- He might be better than Mike, but not by a lot
To get into it a little more - Motely Crue have some fucking
awful music. It is dreadful. Really. It is. And Tommy Lee isn't that good. People like show-off drummers I guess.
Based on my very limited knowledge, and it is rather limited, in terms of drumming style I can only guess Corgan heard in Lee’s limited phrasing - echoes of those kind of parts Chamberlin wrote which lean towards complementing the melodic leads of the music. But unfortunately he also seems to share some of the same over-indulgent, abrasive and tasteless fills that our old pal Byrne was so fond of. I don’t know if he fucks up quite as often though. I image not...
Based on my very limited knowledge, and it is rather limited, in terms of drumming style I can only guess Corgan heard in Lee’s limited phrasing - echoes of those kind of parts Chamberlin wrote which lean towards complementing the melodic leads of the music. But unfortunately he also seems to share some of the same over-indulgent, abrasive and tasteless fills that our old pal Byrne was so fond of. I don’t know if he fucks up quite as often though. I image not...
Still - this move is a good one for the band though. I think. Maybe.
Well, it’s something different at least. Billy has at least seen sense to hire a
drummer who can do a specific job > a drummer who can sit in for a certain
style of record. Chamberlin’s skill set
was so broad and is so strong in so many areas (which afforded the band the ability
to flit across genre’s with ease) that it was fucking stupid of Corgan to think
he could get in someone to replace Jimmy like for like. What he got was a Jimmy clone, but without
the skill to reach each end of the spectrum or the vision and/or ability to be able to lift the band beyond the mediocrity of
his drumming.
It makes sense that if the band (re: Belly) wants to put out a “rock” album – he get an ‘experienced’ 'rock' (hair metal?) drummer to sit in. He might not be the best. He might be more show than ability – but if you can’t get one of the true greats who are able to go across genre’s with ease to join the band – better have someone that is ['good' at what they do] than middle of the road. Right? Get someone to embody that aspect of Chamberlin (or as Billy will put it the Smashing Pumpkins) and another drummer to embody another and so on and so forth... oh and ot also helps that he’s a name. Oh boy does it help.
But anyway, the good thing is, even though he appears to be a terrible person and a rather shitty drummer, he at least has the potential to make the next album sound different. Which is good for SP from my point of view. It’s all I hoped for in a new drummer following Jimmy. The lazy rehash of the old tropes on Oceania was a corporate and safe album. The opposite of what the band has been. Billy said it himself. It was too nicey-nicey.
Anyway, I haven’t heard quite enough of Tommy Lee’s drumming to pin down what his style is per-se, but the good thing is his style certainly isn’t “trying to copy Jimmy Chamberlin, but failing” and that is something we should be thankful for. I don’t think us drummers will get anything to write home about in terms of interesting parts or shows of technical skill – but what we shouldn’t get is something that sounds lacklustre and best and embarrassingly amateur at worst.
Don't get me wrong I do sort of think the band I once worshipped has become an absolute joke - but I guess I'm still holding on to a tiny shred of hope that once again Corgan will make something that I enjoy.
How can someone who once had one of the greatest drummers of all time in his band, keep hiring shit ones... meh
Sorry for the opinion piece. But whatevs. It is what it is.
Friday, 2 May 2014
You Know the Score...
Who is the Greatest Drummer of All Time? Slightly rhetroical if you're reading this here I guess - but I it also appears the readers of Consequence of Sound have equally discerning taste in music. Naturally Chamberlin stolls in the top 16 Drummers of All Time in their recent readers poll - but will he be voted to the number one spot...
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/whos-the-greatest-drummer-of-all-time-round-one/full-post/
http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/05/whos-the-greatest-drummer-of-all-time-round-one/full-post/
Monday, 28 April 2014
Monday, 21 April 2014
Jimmy Chamberlin News (Weekly Round-Up)
As promised - here's some stuff >
1. Frank Catalano says that the shows him and Jimmy played in Chicago earlier this year have been filmed and not only that but him Jimmy are going back to the studio (doink) to record even more new music.
2. As part of CIMMFEST - Jimmy will be appearing on a panel entitled "Live Streaming: From Consumption to Cache" on Saturday, May 3rd at 1:30 - 3:00PM (murica Time). One presumes the panel itself will be live-streamed somewhere, though I can't see mention of it on the festival page. Anyway, this is in addition to Chamberlin's performance in his new band "Mary Shelly" and their scoring of the classic Battleship Potempkin.
3. In contrast Jimmy gives Tyson Meade's track Dusty Come Up for Air some old school bombast. Chamberlin features on 3 of the forthcoming album's 10 tracks.
4. The day you have all been waiting for is here; Jimmy will be heading down to Vic's Drum Shop on the 23rd of April to celebrate REMO-DAY!
And lastly, following the disappointment that the most recent Smashing Pumpkins' announcement wasn't the triumphant return of Jimmy to his throne - in a series of rambling and vague posts, it has become apparent that Billy Corgan is using drum machines to write the parts for the next "Smashing Pumpkins" album. Here's hoping this 'new' (re: old) approach to demoing yields more interesting results than those of Oceania- "Hey Mike, try and play like Jimmy might ok?"
1. Frank Catalano says that the shows him and Jimmy played in Chicago earlier this year have been filmed and not only that but him Jimmy are going back to the studio (doink) to record even more new music.
2. As part of CIMMFEST - Jimmy will be appearing on a panel entitled "Live Streaming: From Consumption to Cache" on Saturday, May 3rd at 1:30 - 3:00PM (murica Time). One presumes the panel itself will be live-streamed somewhere, though I can't see mention of it on the festival page. Anyway, this is in addition to Chamberlin's performance in his new band "Mary Shelly" and their scoring of the classic Battleship Potempkin.
3. In contrast Jimmy gives Tyson Meade's track Dusty Come Up for Air some old school bombast. Chamberlin features on 3 of the forthcoming album's 10 tracks.
4. The day you have all been waiting for is here; Jimmy will be heading down to Vic's Drum Shop on the 23rd of April to celebrate REMO-DAY!
And lastly, following the disappointment that the most recent Smashing Pumpkins' announcement wasn't the triumphant return of Jimmy to his throne - in a series of rambling and vague posts, it has become apparent that Billy Corgan is using drum machines to write the parts for the next "Smashing Pumpkins" album. Here's hoping this 'new' (re: old) approach to demoing yields more interesting results than those of Oceania- "Hey Mike, try and play like Jimmy might ok?"
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